Seiko Golden Grand Prix Tokyo
IAAF World Challenge Meetings
11 MAY 2014
1.) 72,69m (238' 6") Betty Heidler (Germany)
2.) 71,71m (235' 3") Amanda Bingson (US)
3.) 71,13m (233' 4") Gwen Berry (US)
4.) 69,18m (226' 11") Jeneva McCall (US)
5.) 69,04m (226' 6") Anna Bulgakovaus (Russia)
6.) 67,35m (220' 11") Tatyana Lysenko (Russia)
7.) 66,89m (219' 5") Oksana Kondrateva (Russia)
8.) 62,62m (205' 5") Masumi Aya (Japan)
The Russians hate @John Smith.
Mr Poppe, I completely am in awe of your coaching abilities as evidenced by the huge pool of talent you have produced. I am also grateful for the array of videos you kindly share with the throwing community - they are valued training aids.
That said, it is unfortunate that your comments about Jacko come across so negatively. I also noted the NZ press commenting that Jacko is less than affable etc. He is obviously quite a introverted character that in fairness, given his desire to train himself from 13, could have been foreseen.
Rather than pillory someone who may well be having a hard time living up to the pressure of past successes, some encouragement would seem sensible. Despite his career, the very fact that the top 10 performers of all time are 23.12 - 22.50ish, suggests that 24m 5kg performance will not necessarily be repeated with the 7.26k.
As Jacko's coach during several years until 2012 , I know quite well about his personality and all the dedication and huge work he has done to achieve what he has achieved. It was exceptional times, The problem is that I think he has done the wrong choices since 2012 with heavy body weight and systematic search for the maximal strength , also deteriorating his exceptional technique in the process as it is evident to see in this video. I am not "pillorying" him but I think it is the right thing to do to say the things clear and right and not accept poor excuses for poor results. Hopefully Jacko will be able to take it as a "friend" advice , because it is one !
I agree with John that getting to 70m/75m before the end of college is a great goal, but you shouldn't sacrifice long-term development to get there 6 months faster since it is not like there is a payday or sponsorship waiting there. Those that succeed will have to be doing it for the love of the sport and dedicated to it for more than 4-5 years.
Is it a 6 month window?
The American Way
March 24, 2014 by Martin Bingisser
Coach @John Smith posted his thoughts on what the US hammer throwing scene needs for success in an article last week entitled “USA Hammer Throwing Needs a USA Approach.” The name explains his main point. To implement this approach suggests disregarding the established European development models in favor of an American one tailored to the fact that most American throwers begin throwing the hammer at a much older age. More weight training, the use of short heavy hammers, and a few other tools are his formula for success.
Lots of people emailed me to ask me my thoughts and I couldn’t agree more with the main point: each country needs their own approach just like each athlete needs their own approach. As Smith suggests we need to look at our current situation and see what makes it unique. And then we need to figure out how to work with that. But after doing that my conclusions are a little different than Smith’s.
Looks as though Koji went through a similar system, due to his family situation, not a Japanese structural change.
No way all these athletes are training in the Athlétisme Canada Center group in Kamloops.
• Dylan Armstrong (Canada)
• Martin @bingisser (Switzerland)
• Sultana Frizell (Canada)
• Yevgeniya Kolodko (Russia)
• @Kibwé Johnson (USA)
• Michael Letterlough (Cayman Islands)
• Crystal Smith (Canada)
• @Justin RODHE (Canada)
• @Megann Rodhe (Canada)
There are a number of issues with this thread, and frankly I think that it is not a good move on the part of Throwholics to put this in the public domain without any factual evidence to back it up, and I find it irresponsible. Throwholics has lost a lot of credibility by putting this rumour on this forum.
@ShaunP Was it not presented as a rumour? (see headline)
Something that is backed-up with facts in not a rumor.
ru·mor ˈro͞omər/ 1. a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth.
We are are being naive to think we know what is going on in our sport. Even the star throwers, in track & field the athletes have no real power.
Even Bolt has little control over the sport.
Some people think they are a big deal in the world of sports, they do not understand they are very little fish in a big ocean of international sport. In the US someone who sits on the bench in the NBA makes millions, does any thrower make that? Those running the IOC and IAAF see international sport as a business to fund their salary 1st, not a way to promote a sport. That is obvious. They do not care what ANY athlete thinks if it gets in the way of their wages.
I find it interesting when a read internet posts that read, "I spoke with 'so-and-so' at the IAAF and they said this is not true so it must not be true." Why do you think they would tell you the truth now?
Why would the administration tell anyone their agenda?
Sadly, I think there are some athletes out their that think their 'friends' at the IAAF will tell them what is happening. Were the athletes told anything before the hammer was dropped from the Diamond League?
So, we have one training group in the middle of the dustbowl run by Oscar the Grouch...
I wouldn't say grouchy; blue-collar and frank, and always open to someone else's ideas, but not a grouch.
According to Sieg Lindstrom in T&F News @Mac Wilkins plans to address this issue:
6.) "What is,to me, as important as developing the throwers, is developing a knowledge base, a culture, if you will, of here's what it takes to throw-the discus specifically but, as much as I can, all four throwing events."
@Mac Wilkins is the main focus discus?