@Norm Zylstra more proof rotational is the best. I do not understand why anyone would glide especially if they do discus as well.
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thanks to someone you have been bought into the open we can all benefit now!
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@ben.toussaint could we include @Odysseus here or is it too early?
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@Sam Healy I have been rotating in the shot since 2000. Admittedly not very well until about 2005. I would not consider myself a "novice" in rotational shot in 2007. I would suggest the growth of my full throw being independent from my stand throw is related to a fundamental change in my full throw technique and a drastic change in exercise movements and load dispersals. The technique change that Bondarchuk taught me was much faster and more efficient than my old technique. The exercise regime Bondarchuk prescribed to me was vastly different from what I had executed in NCAA, being explosive bouts of throwing related movements. No matter how much I try, I simply can not stand throw the shot put farther than 16.5 meters!
Really interesting @Justin RODHE . I think I can conclude that it is not as important to be good at standing throw to be a good rotater. My son was complaining that he had done too many standing throws this morning and was too tired to rotate. So maybe we would be much better off concentrating on being more explosive in the rotational. Maybe you need to be really good at standing to do glide only. -
@nekkari was he a glider? How far was his full throw?
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so @Norm Zylstra the 2013 figure above supports John Smiths findings on the 12 - 15 foot improvement on standing throw. Was Justin just beginning to rotate in 2007 as it looks like he did not get much further than his standing.
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check this out Throws Unlimited and John Smith has the answer for you. He says that a glider gets an extra 8 feet from their standing throw whereas rotational gets you about 12 -15 feet. So to be a good glider you need to be really good at standing throw. He also says he doesn't understand why anyone would glide!
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Bit off topic but interesting hearing John Smith being interviewed on Throws Unlimited. This was because he saw Brian Oldfield rotating (who is thought to be the inventor). Anyway John said he was kicked off his High School 3 track and field team 3 times for using this odd method. It was as if he was doing cart wheel style!
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I found it to be the complete opposite. I find throwers the most friendly and helpful people. People like julian wruck and Dane M. Miller' have answered my questions!
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wow this was must see for all throwers.
@John Smithcovered why Rotational is better than glide.
don't do a reverse
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Check out Throws Unlimited at Throws Unlimited. The guest this week is @John Smith. Think it is on at 7pm eastern US time Thursday. Guests in the past have included other social throwholics @Dane M. Miller and @Justin RODHE . You can see prior episodes on You tube. Be great to see other coaches like @Bill Pendleton appear on the show to share his training with the bondarchuk method (although Dane already talked about it) or maybe even some of the great throw stars of today @Ryan Whiting or @Tom Walsh could also appear.
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@Julian Wruck are you the real one or Wrucky?
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East Germany - hmmm
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@Bill Pendleton that is really interesting that you have dropped South Africans. Have you stopped standing throw as well? In my opinion the South African helps the drive however I have notice at the moment my son is over rotating so not turning the full rotation into a South African. We do 6 standing throws, 6 South Africans and 6 full rotations for a practice session.
Also have a lack of speed in full rotation for shot put so have increased this by doing some South African drills. Seems to have worked but need to make sure that it works for the full throws.
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that rice bucket one is interesting. What kind of thing are we doing in the rice and what are the benefits?
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Hi guys my son rotates in shotput and I suspect one of his problems is that he is too slow. Anyway been doing a drill with South African starting outside the ring like above. I have noticed amazing results.
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James can you grow a bit. These are size 14. Nike Zoom SD3 Throwing Shoes | Men's running shoes | Fruugo Australia; the good thing about them is that they are cheap as it is free postage from UK. We got some SDs from them for 39.99 including postage. What a great deal! Just hope we can get our size next year as they seem to have limited sizes
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can someone give me a cheap material to set up a net in the garage. Probably be 5
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good one James. Brian Oldfield and Adrienne Blewitt both entered highland games. Reckon highland games wouldn't pay the bills either!.
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we all know that throwing doesn't pay the bills. Just wondering what are complimentary sports to discus/jav and shot. Would someone who is good at Jav/discus be a good pitcher or quarterback?. My son plays cricket and I find the bowling action really stuffs up his discus