you may be right. he reminds me of Dylan Armstrong. I wonder if Dylan worked out more like Romani (only heard second hand) and not the Dr. B system, if he'd already have thrown 23m+?(sorry another topic). I know someone said that throwing as far as he did at worlds and still getting 4th is the most motivating thing that could happen. I think everyone in the world elite is very motivated. Recently talked with a coach of one the 21.50+ throwers and he stated the the goal this year is 23m. So, I assume everyone else's is something similar.
Now to changing your mind. I would say that if I look at the PR's of the top 8 or so over 22m, Crouser's throw seemed to be the one that looked like it could've been better and probably over 23m. his fifth round throw was better technically and he said it came off his hand wrong. so sixth was better hit off fingers, but not as good technically as fifth, perhaps had more intensity though (trying to remember his interview afterward). So, I believe not having to improve on anything, he can throw 23m if he just lined up the throw with the release of hand. All of the others PR's, even Romani's at the PRE seemed like a pretty good combo of form and release. @bruh what's your reasoning that Romani will be the first?
I'm at a point in my career where I've had enough experience to see a few different training styles and am starting to look at switching up cycles, be it weight variance in implements or specific lifts as to much muscle confusion. I understand that over a long enough period of time the body adapts to a new stimulus and stops changing so my question is how long do we want to stay on a certain stimulus? I'm beginning to think after 3 weeks we become adapted and staying for another 3 weeks we really hone in the skills and strengths from the specific stimulus. Is a 6 week cycle to long? I've heard of 10 week cycles, I've also heard of an entire season staying with the same throwing and lifting cycle because the implements distance keeps increasing. Thoughts?
I feel like 3 weeks would be minimum (i tried three 2-week blocks in a row one year and it was tough, never felt like you made much progress before you moved on, lesson learned). I've had best success with 4 weeks with no changes in exercises and volume. if you you go longer than that, you'll need to change intensity and/or volume in order to keep your body from stagnating. I've personally had great gains in 6 and even 8 week blocks. But those were usually in years I only threw discus outdoors (no indoors) after general prep and before competition time. if you do and indoor season, it might be tough to have blocks 6 weeks or longer. but, like bruh said, keep it simple and collect data and see what works best for you and your athletes.
Bruh y’all think counter down, back, left, or right? Or maybe just hard.
Shot fam, is torque overrated?
One thing I've realized about torque is that when it's emphasized, the athlete's response to increase that range of motion decelerates the implement (I suppose more than normal)...is it overrated?? I think it's dependent on who's throwing and their anatomical build...
Counter the pull of the hammer, that's the standard...what you got??
-countering depends on where the ball is in orbit. I think the mass of the thrower must be considered. larger athletes don't have to do much if at all to counter the ball, more just stay level and progress through the ring.
-as far as shot goes. torque being overrated depends on how much you rate it. I think some thrower rely more on it than others. Walsh and his coach Dale have said they never think about or try to get torque(separation). I feel like throwers that have relatively larger stand and half-turn throws will need to rely more on torque than those than try to maintain momentum from the back of the ring and accelerate without much of a re-wrap. Most of the athletes I coach need to maintain or create (wrap) separation before the power-position. Have had some that it doesn't seem to correlate to distance thrown.
I would really try to stay away from netting as far as what the implement first comes in contact with during a throw. peripheral netting, even behind the first contact material is fine, but you want to have some sort of heavy material that your implement cant get caught in. I'll check and see what the material we have is called and post it here.
On a similar note, anyone have an idea what the difference is between Denfi and Denfly discuses? Denfly is a brand the VS athletics makes that uses the same model name and surface design of the Denfi discs, but are they just discs that imitate Denfi or are they rebranded Denfi discs?
I think the Denfly's are just as good as the Denfi. I'm only basing this off of one denfly discus. I believe there was a disagreement between the two parties and VS decided to just build the discus' themselves. My throwers like the yellow competition discus from VS (denfly).