Hammer and shot theories?

One thing I've realized about torque is that when it's emphasized, the athlete's response to increase that range of motion decelerates the implement (I suppose more than normal)...is it overrated?? I think it's dependent on who's throwing and their anatomical build...

Counter the pull of the hammer, that's the standard...what you got??

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Bruh y’all think counter down, back, left, or right? Or maybe just hard.

Shot fam, is torque overrated?

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One thing I've realized about torque is that when it's emphasized, the athlete's response to increase that range of motion decelerates the implement (I suppose more than normal)...is it overrated?? I think it's dependent on who's throwing and their anatomical build...

Counter the pull of the hammer, that's the standard...what you got??

-countering depends on where the ball is in orbit. I think the mass of the thrower must be considered. larger athletes don't have to do much if at all to counter the ball, more just stay level and progress through the ring.
-as far as shot goes. torque being overrated depends on how much you rate it. I think some thrower rely more on it than others. Walsh and his coach Dale have said they never think about or try to get torque(separation). I feel like throwers that have relatively larger stand and half-turn throws will need to rely more on torque than those than try to maintain momentum from the back of the ring and accelerate without much of a re-wrap. Most of the athletes I coach need to maintain or create (wrap) separation before the power-position. Have had some that it doesn't seem to correlate to distance thrown.

What do they emphasize instead (Walsh and Coach)?

here's a screen shot of a presentation i have that Dale did.

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here's a screen shot of a presentation i have that Dale did.

Is it possible to retrieve the full presentation somewhere? I'd like to see what other info is contained there..thanks for sharing!