"The Ring" archive entries from Sep 16th 2013

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Quote from slug

I see your point re intent, just not sure I agree. One of best parts of T&F, in my opinion, is the basic nature of it. It speaks to the caveman in all of us.

In terms of the SP, I would go even more basic and say that, regardless of the technique, the intent is to make the ball (or stone, or whatever) go farther than the next guy. I do wonder, however, where the urge to go in a straight line came from? Is that basic human instinct?

Also, do you happen to know when the toeboard was first used? It seems that if the modern shot put came equipped with the toeboard, then your theory of intent would be a viable one.

The one idea that keeps popping into my head is how both a spear and a sling are used for warfare. One uses a linear motion, the other a rotary. Both, however, have the same aim.

Good discussion!

Jeremy Hammond
Essex High School
Essex Junction, VT

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published at Sep 16th 2013 6:10am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from MSacThrower

I would have to strong agree on your sentiment that the rotational shot should be banned based on the reason the rotational javelin was banned. I think it is pretty obvious why one was banned and the other was not. I would liken it to NASCAR allowing no restrictor plates and allowing rocket engines, one would make make them faster, the other would kill bystanders.

published at Sep 16th 2013 2:40pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Brad Reid

Jeremy,

For sure, some of what we throw, we can trace back to warfare.

The shot is just too heavy to be "thrown" baseball style and we have the javelin for that metric anyway.

I think of the shot put and its origins as being a "heave" from the shoulder . . . of an object too heavy to be thrown.

And, there are rules that govern where the shot can be placed; it cannot be thrown like a discus not that it would be as far anyway.

Not sure of the toe board but I agree with your sentiment, that it would color the debate a bit.

How many other jumping and throwing events are extensively limited by the "run up" or ring size, enough so that we don't see the very best results? Would long jumpers or high jumpers jump farther or longer if their approaches were longer? No.

It's is too late anyway. It is here to stay.

Brad

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published at Sep 16th 2013 2:48pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/