"The Ring" archive entries from Jul 2nd 2009

These are the posts from "The Ring" archive on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/ from day Jul 2nd 2009

Quote from Dan P

anyone got the link to the results?

published at Jul 2nd 2009 3:16am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from jayess

I'm sure that throwing the 5k shot and the 1.5k discus were quite a treat for him.

published at Jul 2nd 2009 3:50am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from CoachW

MARAUDER CLASSIC THROWS CAMP
@ Millersville University (Millersville, PA)
July 19-23, 2009

CONTACT
Scott Weiser (Head Track & Field Coach), Scott.Weiser@millersville.edu or 717-871-2198

This will be an instructional camp focusing on the shot put, discus, and javelin with one daily session introducing the hammer throw (optional). This camp focuses on the High School athlete (those entering 9th grade up to those entering 12th grade/senior year). The staff are great teachers of the events as well as being experienced at the highest levels of Track & Field both as athletes and coaches. In addition we offer great facilities and instruction in specific training techniques.

LINK (Online registration is available)
http://www.millersvilleathletics.com/sports/2009/3/19/MTRACK_0319094312.aspx?tab=trackandfield2&path=wtrack

RATES
Resident (overnight): $375.00
Commuter (no breakfast): $295.00

DEADLINES
July 1: $100 non-refundable deposit
July 9: Total balance due
July 17: Late Registration (+$25.00 late registration fee)

STAFF
Scott Weiser, Head Track & Field Coach at Millersville University. 13 years of coaching experience and have led athletes to 2 individual national championships, 1 ECAC champion, numerous conference championships, and national qualifiers in the USATF, NCAA D1, NCAA D2, and NAIA. Has served as an assistant coach at Lafayette College, Bucknell University, New Mexico State, Kutztown University and Head Coach at Wayland Baptist University (NAIA). Has held certifications in Olympic-style weightlifting and strength & conditioning (NSCA) as well as Level 1 Certified by the USATF. A former hammer thrower at East Stroudsburg University, Weiser has experience coaching all the throws, jumps and sprints at all levels of performance.

Brian Mondschein (WILL NOT BE MAKING IT THIS YEAR)
Prior to joining Southeastern Louisiana State, Mondschein led the Kutztown program for 14 years, turning it into a powerhouse. His program collected 18 conference championships, produced 90 individual conference champions, 38 Division II All-Americans, four Academic All-Americans and two PSAC scholar athletes of the year. During his time at Virginia, Mondschein coached 12 All-ACC athletes and four All-Americans. Mondschein turned in a stellar career as a student-athlete at the University of Washington where he earned All-America honors in the decathlon at the 1977 NCAA Championships. A 1977 graduate of the University of Washington, Mondschein holds a BA in Broadcast Journalism and English and also holds IAAF Level Two Throws Instructor credentials.

Michele Curcio
Curcio is in her tenth season as Lafayette College's Associate Head Coach for Cross Country and Track & Field, where she coaches the throwers, vaulters, and multi-event performers. During her time on College Hill, Curcio has coached 15 Patriot League champions, seven All-East performers, an ECAC Champioin, two Penn Relays champions, and eight NCAA Regional qualifiers. She is Level I and Level II Certified by USATF and is Level I Certified by USA Weightlifting.

Nick Price
A 2005 graduate of Edinboro University and a three-time All-PSAC shot putter, Nick Price has continued his athletic career beyond college to a 11th place finish in the shot put at the 2009 USATF National Indoor Track and Field Championships. Nick has improved his marks steadily since college reaching 59-5 in the spring of 2008 and 59-5 in the winter of 2009. Nick is a chemistry teacher at Interboro High School (Pa.) and a volunteer throws coach at Widener University where he has mentored many Division III national qualifiers.

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published at Jul 2nd 2009 4:05am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from ironman

Some people have trouble dropping down in implement weight; they lose their nice rhythm and long acceleration path.

They think "boy, now I can really smack that thing!!"

Crouser trains light on a routine basis to develop "feel". And, of course, until you have thrown something lighter far, you usually don't get off a plateau and throw your competition implement far.

published at Jul 2nd 2009 4:32am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Bassfly50

Really sad to see such a great athlete winding up in a wheelchair.

All the years of taking her body to the limit, have taken their toll.

At age 40 she might have to live in a wheelchair for another 40 years, wondering "was it all worth it?" ...

published at Jul 2nd 2009 4:44am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tomsonite

My guess as to why a heptathlete like Dobrynska can throw the shot fairly far is because she is light, relatively speaking. By not carrying much extra mass she's able to move a lot quicker, so she gets more speed behind the implement. The lack of muscle mass relative to women's shot putters is probably what doesn't give her the extra momentum/power to throw the shot world class distances.
Extra weight might be a problem for women though - simply due to different hormones (i.e. not nearly as much testosterone as men) it's harder for women to put on lean mass without gaining fat at the same time. If you look at a lot of women shot putters, they don't seem to be as lean as their male counterparts. Having that extra weight won't do anything but slow you down. Not trying to insult anybody, just stating what I've observed.

Also, did anyone see the "giants of track" video on macthrow, that shows Cantwell, Nelson, Hoffa and Taylor in super slow motion? Its a pretty cool video. While I was watching it, I noticed that all four of those guys open up out of the back with their upper bodies...their left arm swings open and gets ahead of where their left knees are pointing.
I've always been taught to stay closed out of the back and through the whole throw. The difference is, all of those guys manage to "re-tourque" in the middle and hit a nice, wrapped up power position anyway. Does anyone know if the left arm swing out of the back is an intentional part of the technique for any of those guys? Or is it just a result of trying to get out of the back quickly?

published at Jul 2nd 2009 4:44am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Harry

Was what all worth what? She was an amazing thrower. Now she is in a wheelchair. just like Betty Cuthbert who was a 4 time Olympic champion.

published at Jul 2nd 2009 5:39am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Mark G.

Christian Erb?

published at Jul 2nd 2009 5:51am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Bassfly50

Let's say you were 15 yo and someone came up to you and asked you to make a choice:

1) lead a normal healthy life
2) be a great athlete for the next 20 years, win several world championships, and end up in a wheelchair at age 40.

What would you choose?

If the answer is 1) than you can probably understand why someone could wonder "was it all worth it?"

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published at Jul 2nd 2009 6:00am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Gary Cooper

My mom was a young gifted athlete. But hurt her back to the point that it ended that potential.
I have always thought how many people have injured themselves beyond recovery in order to resume competitive careers. Injuries like hers, a saddle was placed behind her as a joke and she stepped back on it losing her balance and falling on her hip.She never got her health back, so raised us kids to try our hand in sports.
It's a question of injuring yourself while in the pursuit of a National Title, World Champion , WR Holder etc. Or perhaps slipping on a wet sidewalk and getting that injury that puts you in a Wheel chair.
I'm sure most people would rather of injured themselves going after a Dream than a trip down the driveway.
As my friend Elvard Davis use to say.....

" Do you want to live a short strong life or a long weak one?".

Just a thought.
Gary Cooper

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published at Jul 2nd 2009 7:01am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from heycoach

get to go to the trip to Italy? They will find out in 45 minutes. Gee, I wonder if Crouser is the only one to throw into a tarp thousands of times and study film of any thrower? No. I dont think so.

published at Jul 2nd 2009 7:19am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Viking

-I don't know whether Wylluda's wheelchair status is due to her athletic training and injuries.
This has happened to a lot of athletes though,but i bet they're fewer by percentage to the general population.
My thought is that you have to pursue what you want 100% and decide what you really want,but accept all of the consequences too as a part of the game.
Besides,even if you live a life of as little risk as possible,there's nobody on earth that can guarantee you'll live a life without problems.

-Crouser is a pretty good glider that knows how to do the basics very well.The same can be said about Storl.
Don't measure a technique's effectiveness in relation to the athlete's talent.So many talented throwers tried to spin and threw much less and much less consistently especially in the US i think.
Both these athletes have the frame to support more muscle and remain great as the implement gets heavier.

-Slow motion video from the US nationals shows complete lack of upper to lower body seperation of the top 4 athletes.It's like their upper body is made out of concrete and the whole momentum comes from the first turn.Technical progress ?
hmmm...Perhaps being less athletic improves the consistency.

-At last Taylor has learned to perform a reverse.A great throwing talent.Results speak for themselves but plenty of room there for improvement,from the early standing up before the first turn to the very small base at the power position.Is it his new coach or getting away from the old one ? Hmmm...

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published at Jul 2nd 2009 8:04am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from jayess

Good points, as usual.

published at Jul 2nd 2009 8:10am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from heycoach

#2 and #4 marks for this year in the world list.

published at Jul 2nd 2009 8:23am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Coach Rodney

I'm missing the "ICE CREAM & BLUEBERRIES" tonight, Guess i just need to stroll over to the frig and make my own, but its not the same. Spent last week in Eugene. Had my chance to talk with Dwight Rockhead, Didn't. Did see the official getting tagged twice. twice almost in the same spot! second time he ran and the discii searched him out and tagged him. Many coaches talked about "Focus" and stressing the front of the ring with the arm and then talking about balance. And I'm missing the Ice cream and berries!

published at Jul 2nd 2009 8:33am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from jayess

Nice job in the USA Youth discus, Bago. As in..."very nice".

You're elite in your age group. I really look forward to watching your progress.

published at Jul 2nd 2009 8:53am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Tony Dziepak

Yes that's right, Christian Erb, discus thrower from Switzerland, had an auto accident that put him in a wheelchair, then put on the famous Weltklasse am Rhein thrower's meets through 2001, I believe.

published at Jul 2nd 2009 8:55am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from dmac

dittos....keep the marks coming kid...best to you in the future...again if you had that extra 30-50+ pounds of mass you would really separate yourself...

dm

published at Jul 2nd 2009 8:58am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Mark G.

Now, if I could only remember where I left my keys...

published at Jul 2nd 2009 10:32am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/