"The Ring" archive entries from Mar 15th 2009

These are the posts from "The Ring" archive on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/ from day Mar 15th 2009

Quote from JRapp

I think you can use a number of different criteria to determine "Best Doubles" lists. Tony uses weakest event compared to that events WR. You could use the decathlon scoring system. You could take the average of the two distances etc... It would be interesting to see how the lists compare. And then, of course, you would have the endless debate on which one is most accurate. There are a million lists you could come up with...best single day performance, best single meet performance, best NCAA meet performance and so on...

published at Mar 15th 2009 1:00am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from jakefree

70'5" first throw

published at Mar 15th 2009 1:10am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Tony Dziepak

Brenner is on the list #6. I like the minimum scoring because it brings out throwers that are equally good at both events--guys like Art McDermott--but not necessarily outstanding in one event and then also threw a second event in college. The throwers that are outstanding in one event get their due recognition on the single-event lists.

I've been keeping these combo lists since 1991 (5 years before I had it on the webpage), and I have concluded that this is a simple and intuitive way of ranking throwers in multiple lists. Some people comment because it is not the way decathlons or weight pentathlons are scored, so it is not what they are used to seeing.

published at Mar 15th 2009 3:30am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tomsonite

Walter went 86 feet and change in high school with the 25, then the next year threw 72 with the 35 as a freshman in college. Thats about a 14 foot conversion, but thats with a full year in between the marks. As for what someone could do with the 25 and 35 on the same day, I don't know, 20 could be about right though.

published at Mar 15th 2009 4:26am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tomsonite

I heard today that when Dylan Armstrong was in high school, he had a throw at a meet that hit a wall 90 feet away, a few feet up the wall...as in, the throw would have been well over 90 feet. Does anyone know what the deal with that is, and why it wasn't counted? Did dylan ever actually throw farther than (what I think was) his old 87' and change North American record, or is Conor hands down the North American record holder now?

published at Mar 15th 2009 4:30am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from lstc2asu

Jason lewis won with 22.88m. Congrats jason
- team dave dumble (asu)

published at Mar 15th 2009 8:15am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from ram

nm

published at Mar 15th 2009 8:24am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Foreman

Huge congrats to Jason Lewis on winning the national championship in the weight throw. All of us back here in AZ are proud of the big guy! Jason has been working his ass off for a long time to get to this point, and I'm so happy for what he's been able to do with the excellent coaching from Dumble and being able to train with such an incredible team. And of course, congratulations also to Ryan and Sarah!

published at Mar 15th 2009 8:29am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from moose

I was competing at the meet you are talking about. It wasn't an indoor meet, it was an outdoor meet, so that's why there is no record.

The meet was a regional qualifier for the BC provincial meet. The hammer throwing area was behind a middle school, with a 3' high concrete retaining wall well over 200' from the circle. 10-20' further was the school (this part was a gravel service road). He one-hopped the hammer off the service road and put a hole in the wall about the size of a discus. The best part for me was seeing his grandma taking a picture of him beside the hole while he held a piece of the school.

It must have been when he was in grade 11, because at the club meet held there that summer he quietly moved up to the junior age category (at the time jumping from a 12lb hammer to 16lb hammer) so that he would be allowed to throw. Ended up going over 200' (in the juvenile age class).

As I recall, he was politely asked not to throw at the qualifiers the next year, and was given a bye into the provincials. (this part may have to be verified).

Display More

published at Mar 15th 2009 9:14am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tomsonite

It wasn't a hammer throw meet I was asking about, it was a meet with the 25 pound weight. Thats what I was referring too, that I heard he threw a 25# weight into a wall 90 feet away and that the throw would have been well over 90 feet had there not been a wall there.

Does anyone know the story about that?

published at Mar 15th 2009 10:49am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Hammerthrow1977

Does anyone know if you have to be top 8 to be an NCAA all american or if it's the top 8 AMERICAN born competitors.

Someone said something about the rules being changed.

published at Mar 15th 2009 11:44am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Coach Mac

....from the horses mouth (Dylan Armstrong)
"............well in 1999 in Ohio, on my last throw I hit the wall at 87" ft. The problem was it hit the wall two feet up from the ground. So all they could do is measure it from the front edge of the wall. It's too bad, i always wondered how far it would have been. I had one practice only with it before leaving to the comp, I just always focused on throwing the hammer." Lucais MacKay ( 2003 NCAA Champ Hammer) was copeting in his ine and only indoor meet with the wright and threw 75' and change.
Conor trains with waht we call a WHAMMER ( 25-lb plate on short wire) on occasion so it does not disturb the motor patterns of the Olypic event and I know most hamer purists would agree that it is a DIFFERENT event.

mac~

Display More

published at Mar 15th 2009 8:15pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from JRapp

As far as I know it's the top 8 American competitors. At least that's how it should be considering it's called an All AMERICAN award. If they changed the rules then they need to change the name of the award to All World or something.

published at Mar 15th 2009 11:26pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tomsonite

So I guess Conor is hands down the record holder then!

published at Mar 15th 2009 11:37pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/