"The Ring" archive entries from Feb 20th 2009

These are the posts from "The Ring" archive on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/ from day Feb 20th 2009

Quote from Greg Pilling

I have used vynil marking tape in the following manner (hopefully I can describe it accurately):

Imagine the shot is the earth. Place the hole at the "north pole" and start the tape over that point. Wrap completely with the tape crossing the "south pole" and coming back to the starting point. Rotate the shot slightly so that there is a little bit of overlap at the equator, crossing the south pole and coming back up to the starting point again. Continue this process until the shot is completely covered with the tape. This way, there is a greater amount of tape over the hole in the shot, providing the most support there. If it is a particularly large hole or if it is a 35lb weight ball you may want to do this process twice. Try your best to keep the tape smooth so that there are not any pressure points which will create a weak spot in the tape. This will help the longevity of the tape job. When the tape wears out, there will likely be a bit of a bubble of the lead shot, so you will lose a little bit of the weight but you can re-tape. Each of these tape jobs usually last us a few months an make a huge difference. I've thought about trying it on a new shot, but those usually have to be our competition shots so we can't do it. I assume it would make a big difference in the life of the shot to have that support from the beginning.

Hopefully this helps.

GP

Display More

published at Feb 20th 2009 1:48am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from UTWSC

Just wondering everyones thoughts about the weight of the high school men's weight. Too light or just right?

published at Feb 20th 2009 2:55am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tomsonite

If you compare how heavy the weight is to the hammer, I'd say its just right.

A 35 lbs weight is 2.1875 times heavier than a 16 lbs hammer.

A 25 lbs weight is 2.083 times heavier than a 12 lbs hammer. If they wanted it to be exact proportions, HS boys would have to throw a 26.25 lbs weight. I doubt it would be a significant difference, maybe they just wanted a round, common number?

published at Feb 20th 2009 3:10am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tomsonite

Do high school girls in America throw an 8 pound or 4 kilo shot? Again, not a significant difference, just curious.

published at Feb 20th 2009 3:11am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Bassfly50

Timmerman: 85
Godina: 85
Beyer: 81
Gunthor: 79
Cantwell: 66
Nelson: 61
Hoffa: 60
Barnes: 48

(data from http://www.tilastopaja.org)

Display More

published at Feb 20th 2009 4:00am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Tony Dziepak

Traditionally, the weights came from Scottish agricultural weights, which were multiples of the "stone" unit of weight measurement, equal to 14 pounds. So the original #56 weight in the early Olympics was a 4-stone weight, also known as half hundredweight.

For some reason, the #35 weight became the standard weight for the indoor event instead of the #56--probably because it was considered a compromise between the hammer and #35--which was a separate event, held differently, and at that time, thrown not necessarily with the same technique as the hammer. Also the #35 distances were about the same as the shot and could thus be accommodated in the same landing area.

Anyway, the #35 is 2 1/2 stone. But then the US was the leader in getting the women's weight going, so instead of a 1 1/2 stone weight (#21), they chose multiples of 5 and standardized the #20 weight for women and before that, #25 for HS boys. If the UK led, they may have chosen a 2-stone (#28) weight for high school boys.

published at Feb 20th 2009 4:05am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from CoachK

What other drills besides throwing w/out a reverse can I use for a glider that reverses too soon. He's way off the ground when the shot comes out of his hand.

Thanks,
Coach K

published at Feb 20th 2009 4:40am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Brad Reid

Olympic Trials attendance:

1952 35,795
1956 71,000
1960 108,000
1964 ?
1968 100,000
1972 109,800
1976 105,500
1980 121,727
1984 143,826
1988 90,070
1992 137,262
1996 151,522
2000 187,104

Some of the earliest meets listed were shorter affairs, and even the way team members were chosen varied. For example, Bob Hayes was 3rd place in 1964 in the 200M dash, but they preferred another runner over him, so he didn't run the 200M at the '64 Olympics.

The meets have been 8 day affairs for some time now, so that spreads out the attendance figures, but there were 62,000 in attendance on 7-2-1960, then a single day record for the Trials, not bad for the US population count at that time... and close to a full football stadium.

Brad

Display More

published at Feb 20th 2009 4:53am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Will

You might want to try a different approach.

Have him do a jumpshot like in basketball. Tell him to see how far he can throw from a stand by jumping up in the air first.

The shot won't go anywhere. Then tell him that that is basically what he's doing at release.

I did something similar for a hammer thrower that wouldn't relax his arms. So I told him to pull in the whole time. He lost about 10-20ft on his throw.

He kept his arms relaxed after that.

Will Summers
Live to Throw
Throw to Live

Display More

published at Feb 20th 2009 6:41am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from luthrower

is this a new rule or is it just the first time I have been caught? the official told me that on the 35 lb weight ball there can be no tape other than the piece over the plug

published at Feb 20th 2009 9:11am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from iteachjim

What are some drills that I can use to get a throwers right foot under them on the glide. Also how can I get them to keep the weight back on that right foot during the throw. Once they land in the power position they shift onto their left before turning their right leg to throw.

published at Feb 20th 2009 9:23am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from dpage

http://iaaf.org/aboutiaaf/news/newsid=49374.html

published at Feb 20th 2009 11:30am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from M-FMatt

Hi all,
Just wanted to drop a quick line to let you all know my last day at M-F Athletic is today. I recently purchased a Punch Kettlebell Gym franchise in Seekonk, MA and take over as the new owner on March 2nd. I am not sure who the new M-F representative will be on this forum, but if anyone needs help you can give us a call here at 1-800-556-7464. I will of course be here every day like normal, just not as an M-F employee. If you need to, shoot me an e-mail at matt@punchgym.com.
God bless. Everyone have a great season.
-Matt Ellis

published at Feb 20th 2009 9:58pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from PWSHD

Its 4 kg

published at Feb 20th 2009 11:33pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/