"The Ring" archive entries from Aug 21st 2008

These are the posts from "The Ring" archive on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/ from day Aug 21st 2008

Quote from tomsonite

Swimming world records continue to be broken because of new suits and the design of the pool - depth, width, the way the lane markers absorb drag, etc. There's a lot more things that can be tweaked technologically in swimming than can be modified in most sports. And as long as those things don't break the rules, they'll keep doing them.

published at Aug 21st 2008 1:03am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from jayess

Technology in the form of pool design, suit design, and high-tech analysis of technique and drag through the water.

Improvements in coaching and training.

Technical changes in the stroke rules.

All of the above are facts, but still...the records have been falling more or less continuously sent I can remember. There has to be a point at which new WRs will come more slowly.

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published at Aug 21st 2008 1:08am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from David Barron

There was a piece in the NY Times this week about Bolt. Here's the link.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/19/sports/olympics/19sprint.html?scp=2&sq=&st=nyt

What struck me was this paragraph:

"But Jean-Fran

published at Aug 21st 2008 1:21am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Brad Reid

"that pools weren't available to all people..."

typos galore...

brad

published at Aug 21st 2008 1:25am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from 70footer

he must be referring to the fact that we have reached human capaicity in most events....so maybe a high jump of 8'6'' really is OUT OF THIS WORLD and can not be attained by human bodys...and throwing one out of the pit is actually IMPOSSIBLE....so Randy will hold the thing at just beyond the pit 75'10'' for ever...but that running the 100 meters in 9.5 is actaully possible with a human body I guess.

published at Aug 21st 2008 1:30am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Jim Jones

Perhaps the French dude means this...

Michael Johnson's thoughts, "Holy crap, I know how much I was on when I ran those records...I can only imagine how much Bolt must be on."

It may be a legit argument. He may be saying that those records are so far out there, that to break them the athlete must be taking a serious performance enhancer(s).

published at Aug 21st 2008 1:34am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Jim Jones

Perhaps the French dude means this...

Michael Johnson's thoughts, "Holy crap, I know how much I was on when I ran those records...I can only imagine how much Bolt must be on."

It may be a legit argument. He may be saying that those records are so far out there, that to break them the athlete must be taking a serious performance enhancer(s).

published at Aug 21st 2008 1:40am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from JUMPS

So claims this researcher:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1573007/No-more-world-records-after-2060.html

Here is his study. Anyone care to translate this for those of us without a Phd. T&F & Wt. lifting are prominent in this study.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2212132

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published at Aug 21st 2008 3:03am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from M-FMatt

I would love to know where he is getting his facts. This sounds more like opinion. World Records are not like say...terminal velocity. Terminal velocity is the fastest an item can fall. Drop a penny and a cinder block out of a plane and they will both eventually be going as fast as gravity will limit them. World Records will always be broken. Training techniques, equipment, nutrition, etc will always continue to improve so the athlete (hell, all humans) will always continue to evolve. Look at Phelps. Say what you will about pool design and suits, but the guy's physique should get the most attention. He has the perfect build for swimming. Somewhere down the road we might see a vaulter or thrower who has the perfect mechanical build for his event and starts smashing records. Certain events may have records broken more often, but that doesn't mean the other event's records will never be broken. That seems foolish to me.

published at Aug 21st 2008 3:06am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Viking

...would ever suggest records will stop falling after a certain point.

Where are all the phd idiots that "predicted" that the 100m record has reached the human limit at 9.84 and that Ben Johnson's 9.83 and 9.79 were super-human and would never be repeated by anyone else ever ?
Perhaps Donovan Bailey is still the WR holder...or is he not ?

published at Aug 21st 2008 3:30am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from E.C. Glass Thrower

NBC has put up video of several throwing finals with all of the throws. If you just go to videos under track and field, scroll down to "search video" then under video type hit long form replay. They have several field finals... Good stuff. Enjoy, Mike Z

published at Aug 21st 2008 3:38am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from jayess

So I checked that French guys data. It

published at Aug 21st 2008 4:12am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from jayess

W Hammer throw limit is 79.70

published at Aug 21st 2008 4:14am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Fu

I found the article interesting because the notion of WR record progression would slow or predicted a

published at Aug 21st 2008 4:16am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Goldman

tried to find track videos but couldnt.......how do you search for those?

published at Aug 21st 2008 4:19am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Ringmaster

Aren't these articles about "limits" basically statistical analyses that the authors are fully aware ignore many real factors? In other words I seriously doubt if the worok was framed as more than a mathematical exercise, and may even have been intended to demonstrate the limits of such modeling when applied to complex scenarios?

published at Aug 21st 2008 5:11am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from JUMPS

Here you go
http://www.nbcolympics.com/trackandfield/video/index.html

published at Aug 21st 2008 5:13am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Ringmaster

On 8/14 The Ring shattered the previously daily record for visitor sessions with 3081. I had believed that 2000 sessions in one day was near the absolute limit.

I revised my model upward to 3100 as the new absolute limit.

Then, on 8/15 The Ring experienced 5202 user sessions. 8/15 also shattered the record for messages at 196.

I have had to revise my absolute limits to 5250 sessions and 200 messages.

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published at Aug 21st 2008 5:31am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from jayess

Funny! And perfectly timed.

published at Aug 21st 2008 5:33am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/