Quote from Ringmaster
I just got a call from a Ringer in Reno about the language on the Ring. He reminded me that his young (13 years old) kids read the Ring and get lots of good information. Please keep the age group in mind when writing your posts.
published at Jul 8th 2008 1:23am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from 40Footer
Just a thanx, I read stories of people threatening to sue and/or have your job over this site. I'm assuming they went to the colleges site and pulled your number from there. Kudos to you for keeping the board up.
published at Jul 8th 2008 1:55am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Norm Zylstra
from USATF ::
Team USA Roster - 2008 IAAF World Junior Championships:
Rebecca O'Brien (Cumberland, Maine)
Chinwe Okoro (Darien, Ill.)
Anastasia Jelmini (Bakersfield, Calif.)
Erin Pendleton (Elmore, Ohio)
Lauren Chambers (Acworth, Ga.)
D'Ana McCarty (Indianapolis, Ind.)
Karlee McQuillen (Park, Penn.)
Ryan Krais (Eagleville, Penn.)
Erin Sampley (Lexington, Ky.)
Daniel Block (Hanover Park, Ill.)
Eric Plummer (Plainfield, N.J.)
Geoffrey Tabor (Ardmore, Okla.)
Karl Gehrke (Moorpark, Calif.)
Walter Henning (South Huntington, N.Y.)
Connor McCullough (Canoga Park, Calif.)
Luke Laird (Fayetteville, Ark.)
Weston Leutz (Bismark, N.D.)
Chase Dalton (Tigard, Ore.)
published at Jul 8th 2008 2:31am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Brad Reid
In the context of announcing that Michelle had won the women's shot put event and was headed to the Olympics like her father in 1984, an article I saw in a local paper said Michael was unable to attend the Trials and see his daughter throw because he was having, or had just had, hip and knee replacement surgery.
He was already limping badly when I interviewed Michael years ago when Michelle was going to be a senior in HS the following year, so what, 6 years ago I guess.
I believe he told me his doctors wanted to put off the knee replacement surgery as long as possible. It seems this is a common theme --- the current knees are good for only so long and you can replace them only so many times, something like that... so they want to start as late as possible.
On the other hand, technology is really improving and the replacement knees and hips get better every year. Rickey Dale Crain, a many times champion powerlifter, had a hip replaced and is back squatting again with no side-effects in his mid 50s.
Several members of this board have gone through these joint issues. Michael's may have more to do with football than shot putting I suspect.
published at Jul 8th 2008 3:00am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Norm Zylstra
REPLACES PREVIOUS ROSTER ANNOUNCEMENT; adds relay pools and updates men's discus ::
Geoffrey Tabor (Ardmore, Okla.)
Brian Bishop (Cantrall, Ill.)
published at Jul 8th 2008 3:40am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from w8coach
I'm with those who felt like Greer was out of place and somewhat out of line. What is had snuck in a 77 m throw and made the weak US team? He would have been taking the trip and that's all. He leaves me with the impression that he feels bigger than the sport.
published at Jul 8th 2008 4:27am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from 70footer
sorry RINGMASTER ...I/WE talk like were am talking to a bunch of throwers and thats fine but I for one didn't realise that young ones were on too.
try to keep a tight lid on the adjetives in the future...
published at Jul 8th 2008 5:12am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from jayess
Bigger than the sport? Yeah maybe that's the way he looks at it. It doesn't sound like there's much that matters to him other than promoting himself.
So he didn't make the team, and now he'll go off to pursue one of his other avenues for self-promotion, like giving off-the-wall interviews, wearing bizzare hair-dos, cage fighting, and doing American Gladiators.
It's not the attitude that we typically admire in sportsmen, but it's the one he's got. It's kind of like Dennis Rodman was a few years back. Maybe sensing that he's past his peak performing years in his sport, but not wanting to part with the attention, and maybe seeing this as a brief window of opportunity to generate some cash.
published at Jul 8th 2008 5:14am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Kap
Here's a post from the javelin discussion forum concerning the interview with Breaux everyone seems so bend out of shape about. it makes many good points that none of those who think he was out of line fail to see/mention. Thanks to Nathan Schneeberger, former U of Albany throws coach, for his intelligent and well reasoned posting....
"I think the criticism levied against this Breaux in this interview is unfair at best. If you want Breaux to come out an be a "representative of the sport" like other professional athletes...pay him like other athletes. He's not under any contract to represent any organization (unlike other professional athletes), so he can represent himself as he chooses. He is an independent contractor (like a boxer) and his image is his own to manage as he will. If you don't like his image, use your economic power to say so. Don't buy products he sponsors (oh...wait), clothing with his team's logo on it (oh...wait), or a jersey with his number on it (oh...wait). He wasn't particularly disrespectful toward his competition, nor javelin as an event. He was mostly talking about himself, and his future plans and goals.
If you've read interviews with or posts by Breaux in the past, he he has flatly and unceremoniously rejected any attempts to be put on a pedestal or to be the figurehead of the sport. So maybe we should stop trying to lift him up there an make him one?
As far as "should wanting to make the sport better than when he started" or "the image problem with American Public", that is an awfully big burden to place on anyone athlete's shoulders. I haven't walked a single step in his shoes, so I'm not going to second guess him and tell him what he "should want." I don't know the sacrifices that he has made (jobs, money, career, family) to keep training for as long as he did, but I do know that in the U.S. he hasn't gotten much for his effort. Where then should this felt obligation to "make it better" come from? Breaux didn't cause the image problem so why should we put the burden on him to fix it?
Finally, I think we also need to hold the person behind the camera accountable for the tone and quality of the interview? "Of all your track and field competitors who would you not want to face in an ultimate fighting match?" "Who's your girlfriend?" I mean, seriously, is this Junior High school? And we are going to give Breaux heat for answering that question honestly, but no heat directed toward the person asking it? When was the last time you saw a reporter ask Tiger Woods, "So Tiger, of all your PGA competitors who would you most like to beat to death with your driver?" I mean come on. If you don't like the answer to a question, re-examine the question. The interviewer was trying to be "provocative" and Breaux simply obliged him where someone else might have said..."interview over."
Tiger Woods competes injured, wins, and he's a hero. Breaux competes injured and doesn't win (THIS year), and he's a pariah?" That's silly. "
published at Jul 8th 2008 5:38am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Hank Slam
feels like crap! I think it shows in his interview. It obviously meant an awful lot to him, more than he would like any of "us" to know. The rest of it is just "pain" seeping through his mouth. You know in todays "information age", everything is video taped or recorded. Some of us just aren't prepared for that at stressful times. Funny how just months ago so many of you on this message board were singing praise about Breaux. I'm cutting him some slack for now, as I have said or done some stuff that I'm awfully glad wasn't on video. I just wish I could erase some of your minds! Ha! Ha! Lol
Congratulations to all of our Olympic Throwers. USA 2008
published at Jul 8th 2008 6:03am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from hopefullthrower
I am sure that he felt a lot of pressure and some dissappointment and said unfortunate things, we all make mistakes
published at Jul 8th 2008 6:15am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Dan P
honestly i watched the entire interview i like the guy more now. no bs just how it is. cant understand why everyone is giving this guy crap about it. pro athletes get into trouble all the time but the moment they score a touchdown or hit a homerun its almost forgotten. greer says whats on his mind and answers what he was asked and now hes the bad guy?
published at Jul 8th 2008 6:45am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from UChammer
i think the way greer responded to the questions was exactly what the guy giving the interview wanted and you cant take the greer too seriously. obviously he was kidding around for the majority of it and if he felt like saying that stuff why not. he does what he wants to and doesnt feel like he has to give that generic response that most athletes give. it seems like im one of the few that thought didnt really get mad about it.
published at Jul 8th 2008 7:02am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from ironman
Jessica Cosby was a HS hurdler.
1500-women Shannon Rowbury was a competitive Irish step dancer; and Erin Donohue as a freshman at North Carolina won the ACC javelin title.
Ahoy, Kap't Keihas, way to coach up those runners, matey!!
published at Jul 8th 2008 7:37am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from cownuttz
I found him to be honest. That's greer. I am sure he is not doing it soley to be "that guy." I believe that is who greer is...a goof ball (in a good way). I thought the interview was entertaining. More interviews and personalities like that the more popular the sport will get. Atleast I think so.
published at Jul 8th 2008 7:39am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Omega4ul
21st CENTRAL AMERICAN & CARIBBEAN CHAMPION
1 Cleopatra Borel-Brown TRI 18.39
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published at Jul 8th 2008 7:45am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from ironman
For some real world perspective on just what kind of perseverence and commitment it takes to succeed post collegiately (without the European type club system), click on the Oly Trials hammer results and read the quote by Loree Smith.
published at Jul 8th 2008 7:49am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/