Quote from Montana
I am will be building a high school hammer/discus cage in the next year. I am planning on building the net out of galvanized fence (like a baseball backstop, instead of rope netting. My concern is: what is the "bounce factor" if a hammer or discus is to slam into the fence? Will the fence absorb the force? Or send the discus/hammer flying back at you? I haven't seen that happen yet with this style cage, but maybe some of you have?
published at May 3rd 2008 1:57am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from M-FMatt
Chain link will be fine to use. Many of the cages here in RI are made of chain link and they hold up very well. The one thing you want to make sure of is that the chain link sections are long enough to reach the ground and curl in toward the circle. This means that the fence will be inside of the posts. This will prevent the hammers and discuses from slipping through the fence and getting to the spectators. Also, make sure that the fence overlaps at the posts so no hammers or discuses can slip through that way either.
published at May 3rd 2008 2:15am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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published at May 3rd 2008 2:20am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Hunter
I was at the meet a few years ago where Noah Bryant bounced a hammer off the cage and got hit in the face with the rebounding hammer. The cage was chain-link.
published at May 3rd 2008 2:49am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Tony Ciarelli
Dre, why do you think his distance in the shot is so low compared to 650lb squat. I have never had a thrower squat 650lb so I was just wondering with those strength levels why do you think he is not throwing farther?
Capo di tutti Capi
published at May 3rd 2008 3:10am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Montana
Kent, I was wondering what type of cage that one was.
Thanks MF-Matt. I didn't even think of how the fence connect to make it better.
I will be hosting small hammer competitions, however it will mainly be used to teach HS kids the hammer event.
Anyone out there a discus/hammer cage geru that I can send my plans to and get your ideas on safety issues that may arise?
published at May 3rd 2008 3:13am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Coach Mac
PATENTs: If you modify a patented product by 10% it will be hard to get a any type of settlement through the court !
HAMMER CAGE: WE HAD A CAGE BUILT BACK IN THE LATE 70'S ( 1970'S) THAT IS STILL SAFE AND OPERATIONABLE. YOU'LL NEED EITHER TELEPHONE POLES or HEAVY PIPE WITH A HEAVY CABLE TOO STRING THROUGH THE CHAIN LINK AND LET IT HANG (SAGGING) SO THAT IT ABSORBS THE HAMMER AND WILL NOT BOUNCE BACK OR WORSE...CLIMB... AND DROP ON SOME INNOCENT THROWER IN LINE. ANother important issue is the distance form the release point too the cage. The Northridge cage was condemned and they built a new two cage facility with the conventional netting and the aluminum poles bent (just like ours) in the in-famous Santa Ana winds that we get in So-Cal.
I would be more than happy to share "thrrrifty" plans with you.
THROW FAR this weekend and have a GREAT Day!
published at May 3rd 2008 3:39am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from muller
Kalnas went over 20 two times today at Princeton. Congrats! All your hard work and dedication has paid off, Jon. I am sure you made Mark proud and it is definitely sweet to see you finally break the 20 meter barrier.
published at May 3rd 2008 6:48am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Bud Rasmussen
USATF Discus Development Series
Meet #2: Chula Vista, CA
Friday May 2, 2008
USATF Certified Officials: James Skelly, Phil Pressel, Ty Sevin
Women's Shot Put
1) Anderson, Catarina (Sweden) 15.73m/51-7.25
Series: 14.99m, 15.03m, 14.77m, 15.73m, 15.32m, 14.97m
2) Schwerin, Christina (Denmark) 13.99m/45-10.75
Series: 13.39m, 13.79m, 13.99m, F, 13.69m, 13.16m
3) Petersson, Maria (Sweden) 10.95m/35-11.25
Series: 10.95m, F, F, F, F, F
Men's Shot Put
1) Beyer, Jamie (USA) 19.06m/62-6.50
Series: 19.06m, F, F, 18.99m, 18.93m, 19.04m
2) Toompuu, Raigo (Estonia) 18.96m/62-2.50
Series: 18.75m, 18.75m, 18.85m, F, 18.96m, 18.70m
3) Christensen, Kim (Denmark) 18.68m/61-3.50
Series: F, F, 18.33m, 18.68m, F, 18.55m
4) Petersen, Nick (Denmark) 16.39m/53-9.25
Series: 16.05m, F, 16.32m, F, 16.39m, 16.03m
1) Breisch, Becky (USA/Nike) 62.50m/205-0
Series: 62.50m, F, F, F, F, 55.03m
2) Soderberg, Anna (Sweden) 59.30m/194-6
Series: 55.40m, 58.30m, F, 57.52m, 59.30m, 58.72m
3) Anderson, Catarina (Sweden) 34.52m/113-3
Series: 34.52m, F, F, F, F, F
1) Kanter, Gerd (Estonia/Nike) 70.38m/230-11
Series: 69.54m, 68.32m, F, 66.95m, 65.26m, 70.38m
2) Harradine, Benn (Australia) 65.37m/214-5 (new Australian record)
Series: 63.89m, 65.37m, F, F, 61.14m, 62.72m
3) Waltz, Ian (USA/Nike) 63.77m/209-2
Series: 63.54m, 63.51m, 63.77m, 63.73m, F, F
4) Rome, Jarred (USA/Nike) 63.60m/208-8
Series: F, 63.60m, F, F, 61.37m, 62.04m
5) Israel, Mart (Estonia) 63.26m/207-6
Series: 63.26m, 61.76m, 48.59m, F, 59.08m, 58.91m
6) Kuehl, Adam (USA) 62.57m/205-3
Series: 61.91m, 62.13m, 61.91m, 62.57m, F, 61.29m
7) Dennis, James (USA) 61.41m/201-5
Series: F, 58.87m, F, F, 61.41m, 59.99m
Myklebust, Gaute (Norway) 60.16m/197-4
Series: 60.16m, 57.90m, 57.55m, 58.11m, 58.41m, 59.23m
9) Petrucci, Nick (USA/VS Athletics TC) 59.46m/195-1
Series: F, 59.46m, 58.71m, F, 58.28m, 58.75m
10) Lightbody, Sam (USA/VS Athletics TC) 59.00m/193-7
Series: 57.01m, 59.00m, 58.28m, 57.98m, 58.32m 56.75m
11) Arrhenius, Niklas (Sweden) 56.39m/185-0
Series: F, F, 56.39m, F, F, F
12) Terje Pay, Bjorn (Norway) 51.29m/168-3
Series: 50.78m, 51.29m, F, 49.23m, 48.56m, 48.04m
Men's Paralympic (T44 class, 1.5k) Discus
1) Skiba, Jeffrey (USA/US Paralympic Team) 49.46m/163-11
Series: F, 49.46m, F, F, F, 45.69m
published at May 3rd 2008 9:08am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from 70footer
last thing I saw about Chula Vista was that there was alot of wind but that it was coming from the wrong direction...yet Kanter goes 231 wow....anyone have any insight on this throw?
published at May 3rd 2008 9:13am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Bud Rasmussen
Congrats to Benn Harradine (AUS) for setting a new Australian national record and Gerd Kanter (EST) for reclaiming the world lead (I know that Gerd had everyone thinking bigger things after his Monday evening "blast" session with his new practice PR of 72.15m and -my count- 8 throws measuring over 69.70m). All I can say is that Salinas (5/8) should be very special this year... Consensus among the coaches was that Adam Kuehl (USA) had the most consistent series and was much improved over last Thursday... It is the first week that Ian Waltz (USA), Jarred Rome (USA) and Becky Breisch (USA) have concentrated on working with the competition weighted implements and their series definitely showed it (it usually takes about three weeks for them to get the rhtyhm and timing back), however I was pleased with the way in which they "stayed the course" in continuing to work on the areas we've targeted for improvement this winter/spring. These past few weeks I've had to keep reminding the US athletes that nothing matters until qualifying day in Eugene and nothing counts until the finals (IMO the same can be said for Beijing as well, that is once people make the US team)... In case you're wondering Omar El Ghazaly (EGY) was a last minute scratch at the men's discus competition... Finally a big thanks goes out to the USATF officials and USOC OTC volunteer crew for their help, not to mention the gals that stepped in to make our wSP and wDT competitions legal!
published at May 3rd 2008 9:25am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Dre
He doesnt throw far because his technique SUCKS!
Honestly, the kid is all power, and very little explosion. We've been working on teaching him the difference, and he's been doing a great job at picking it up.
I've only been coaching him for about 3 months. He had a 650lb squat WAY before I started coaching there. Meanwhile, his clean max is below 300, and he has never done snatch with more than 100lbs. All things that will change next year. We spent ZERO time in the weight room this year, because I had so little time until the League meets, that I decided to spend almost all of our time in the ring.
Also, as I said before, his technique was miserable when I got to the school. I switched him to the spin (his glide was REALLY bad), because I could tell that he was very athletic, and might be able to make a run for 60 with a spin.
But the biggest reason he hasnt thrown ridiculous distances is because he JUST started learning to throw with his LEGS!!! Before i got there, it was all arm, baby!
His technique is a lot better now, and I think he may add a few more feet by the end of the season.
5'9... maybe 10, 230ish, very athletic (but unfortunately.. short!). He also plays football, but track is his passion... even last year when he was just a little over 40!
published at May 3rd 2008 10:24am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/