"The Ring" archive entries from Apr 19th 2008

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Quote from 49erThrower

Just curious what everybody thinks. If you had to pick the best glide, or a top 3, who would it be? Also what makes that the best? Thanks
Andrew

published at Apr 19th 2008 1:03am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from KSCTHROWER

John Cena too! LOL

Springfield always has some great throwers.

published at Apr 19th 2008 1:41am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Montana

State records can only be broke in the IL state meet. Mike Minton from Salem then Hoosier broke the class AA discus record his junior year at 192' in 98, I broke the state record for class A record in 99 at 184'3". My record was broke last year by Anthony Ellison from Lebanon at 189'7" which my dad coached started coaching him when I went to college when Anthony was in 7th grade.

Look out for Alex Thompson, a sophmore I heard hit 181 the other day! His form is outstanding as a freshman in the state meet.

IL is going to a three class system next year, I don't know how class records will stand, but I see Mintons & Ellisons records not holding up much longer.

Good to see IL discus throws getting out there!

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published at Apr 19th 2008 1:59am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tongajack

If your talking about not just who threw the farthest but also beauty of technique , my 2 cent vote goes to Werner Gunthor

published at Apr 19th 2008 2:02am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tongajack

You can't argue with the end result,but my ugly vote goes to Andrei

published at Apr 19th 2008 2:29am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Nick Garcia

Best

1. Timmerman
2. Brenner
3. Stulce
4. Fuerbach

Ugly

1. Bagach

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published at Apr 19th 2008 2:54am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tgthrower

I guess Cena graduated in 1998(?), but Woicik, Lasorsa, Boyle, Jones, Spagnuolo, and Blatnik I think all graduated in the same year.

Of course other Springfied Alumni include James Naismith, Adolph Rupp, Dick MacPherson, and even Don Ho!

published at Apr 19th 2008 3:05am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Hank Slam

NB,

Kevin Akins, or Mike Lehman come to mind. By the way, I just wish I had thrown 70' any way possible! Not clownin', just answerin'.

Ron McKee

published at Apr 19th 2008 3:09am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Hank Slam

n/m

published at Apr 19th 2008 3:18am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from jayess

I've always been partial to Kumbernuss. But if it's guys only, then probably Timmerman.

published at Apr 19th 2008 3:37am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Christian Salas

Ugliest Glide:
Most glides are ugly to me, since I've converted to the spin

But seriously, worst looking glide:
Remegus Machura (the elder) from Czechoslovakia ('88 Olympics)

When he wasn't busy serving a steroid suspension, his form was to glide across the ring, stop and admire the view, then finish the throw. But his arms were so big it didn't matter.

Bonus answer:
Worst spinner was Helmut Krieger from Poland. Started the spin sort of like Baryshnikov, but stayed there throughout the throw and threw from a crumpled up position like he was having a heart attack.

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published at Apr 19th 2008 3:56am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Christian Salas

Now that I've blasted him, I will give him props for throwing as 45 year old in 2005. Here's a cool photo showing a glide strategy of wearing a thick soled shoe on the blocking left foot. Presumably elevates that foot to get a higher angle on release. Ulf Timmerman did the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Remigius_Machura_senior_CZ_championships_in_athletics_Kladno_2005.jpg

published at Apr 19th 2008 4:05am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Dan McQuaid

There are two ways to look at the "best throw ever" in any state, I suppose. Yes, there is an Illinois state record that refers only to throws made at the state meet. But there is also the matter of throws recorded at other meets and, to the best of my recollection, the farthest throw in that category belonged to Gary Kostrubala and was 198'. I'm relying on memory here and could very well be wrong, but perhaps someone out there has some documentation?

--Dan McQuaid

published at Apr 19th 2008 4:11am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from KSCTHROWER

I just finished up college. I only had one year of coaching. I'm on my own now for training.
I have a huge desire to see how far I can get this 16lbs ball.

Comments Appreciated!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yumh9mt3Lo

Since I am not going to be competing for some time I set up a practice routine for myself on the track before I hit the weights.
I do
My warm up, Walking winds, Backward walk with winds, Left and Right 1 handed Winds.

5 sets x 7-10 Turns Left Hand
5 sets x 7-10 Turns Right Hand

5 sets x 7-10 1 wind 1 turn, 1 wind 1 turn, etc.

Then I finish up with 5 sets of regular hammer turns, really concentrating on pushing 180 degrees and really working on staying on my toe.

What does anyone think? For Reference I'm 5'10' 205lbs. 200kg deadlift. 180kg Squat (Parallel). 120kg power clean.

Joe Miessau
(PR 47.89m)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ELKT81CPKc

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published at Apr 19th 2008 4:13am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Viking

It's funny that Machura's being mentioned for having big arms...he would make Oldfield or any other model there is out there of thrower for jumping ability pale in comparison...please see again and check out the leg power...He used to put the hurdles out of their sockets and catch them with tape on the last possible milimeter to make them as high as possible and do endless sets of 10,sometimes with a weighted vest...

Anyway...

Best glide : Matson
Worst : Gavryushin

Best spin : Barnes
Worst spin: Doehring (and Barnes on his off days...)

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published at Apr 19th 2008 4:30am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from hopefullthrower

Best- Parry O'Brien ( I know, not 70feet)
Ugliest- Geoff capes

published at Apr 19th 2008 6:00am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from 70footer

Best Glide.....hands down Michael Carter , had he committed only to the shot put I think we would be talking about him as the world record holder.

Ugliest Glide....I agree with hankslam , Kevin Akins looked like he was falling down the stairs , damn thing was ballistic though and went over 70 on many occasions.

published at Apr 19th 2008 6:16am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from 70footer

Best Spin ....two throwers come to mind , and when I saw each of them throw the first time all I could think was OH SHIT....Dean Crouser and Randy Barnes.

Ugliest Spin....my vote goes for Al Fuerbach , just because his glide was so effiecent and perfect but he switched to the spin in 1984 for a year. even though he did it pretty well it just seemed wrong.

published at Apr 19th 2008 6:29am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Brad Reid

Best glider...

1)Timmermann
2)Timmermann
3)Timmermann

Best Spinner...

1)Barnes
2)Janus Robberts (text book good)
3)Reese Hoffa

Worst Spinner...

1) Baryshnikov ... how in the heck did he hit those distances walking through his spin???

There were too many bad gliders to name them all.

Brad

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published at Apr 19th 2008 6:35am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/