Quote from COACH GEORGE
Nueroscientists believe that children best learn in a dynamic environment full of motion and the manipulation of physical objects. People with different motor experiences think in different ways.
"Argo Ergo Cognito" I act therefore I think. Drill work is important and the ability to work for a "Feel" inorder to develop a kinesthetic sense is imperative.
In Acts 4:9 it says that Saul fell to the ground. Is the donkey part assumed as well as the reason for his conversion?:)
published at Mar 26th 2008 1:19am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Scott B.
Im in my second year throwing the hammer, I have been learning how to 4-turn, and it seems that I have no increase in speed from turn 3 to turn 4. Is there any specific ways I can improve this.
I have been throwing lighter implements to work on speed, but I was wondering would it be a better idea to throw a heavier hammer like an 18lber. or stick to throwing the 14lbs for speed.
published at Mar 26th 2008 1:40am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Brad Reid
I don't think the donkey had much to do with it, but the fall may have, as Paul went on to declare in his epistles that his prophetic inspirations were "revelatory" in nature, not of men, but from God. I don't think this was an apology for not being one of the original disciples, but his true testimony as he knew it. By the way, Peter never challenged him on his Christian bona fides.
Several years ago, a television program featured several folks who'd suffered brain injuries who awoke to find themselves stuck in sort of a spiritual mood. Even mundane objects took on deep meanings to them.
There are several very good books on this subject now and National Geographic did a nice write-up on the topic several years ago as I recall.
One author posits that man 4 or 5 thousand years ago had less cohesion between the two sides of the brain, and by today's standards, these ancient people would act and appear schizophrenic to us modern humans. It was as if they heard imaginary voices when in fact it was simply that the two sides of their brains were not yet synchronized.
How any of this relates to throwing, I am not sure, but one thing comes to mind and that is when a thrower has one of those rare throwing series in a meet where everything goes right, sometimes in bad weather or even after having been ill, what "feels" different is rarely physical in nature, but some sort of an odd relaxed and clear state of the mind where one lines up to throw but isn't talking to himself or thinking through the throw... a human version of being in "auto-pilot," a very neat feeling.
published at Mar 26th 2008 1:57am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from w8coach
It is my contention that that auto pivot feeling is all part of of a carefully executed plan from training to meets. I train my throwers to drill in the small pieces of drills from the front to the back at the slowest possible speed they can move and successfully move through the drills. This ensures successful repititions and mimmics the proper feel.
published at Mar 26th 2008 2:13am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from w8coach
So true. I was told and coached that the value of your ability to find the proper feel during wam-ups will likely dictate the success of the feel you have to use in competition. I sometimes fall into the "coach" diring comp and you are right , it's a mistake in most respects. I believe the tech adjustments the eleites make are through some simulated, slow drills off the the side between throws. I'm with you ,Brad, I don't think anyone does well with verbal ques during comps.
published at Mar 26th 2008 4:23am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from 70footer
yeah DEMONTHROWER isn't that GUNTHOR video interesting , 74'7'' is far!!! that together with the video of ULFs WR and ANDREIs WR are just explosive!!! I imagine I got it from MAC as with most of the stuff in those videos.
published at Mar 26th 2008 5:24am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from 70footer
I think I got it there from mac but I don't see it either...I will post something on youtube in the coming days and/or send a copy to MAC..in the meantime it is on that video about halfway through.
published at Mar 26th 2008 6:17am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from gripnrip
I would say work on both. Heavy balls work on specific strength which you need to go faster, and the lighter balls get you to a speed that really gets you at meet speed. Actually, my favorite balls to throw is the 3k and 2k as a male thrower to work on hitting perfect positions and speed.
published at Mar 26th 2008 7:28am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from CoachW
I would have to agree with AG. YOu really learn a lot about your technique and speed potential from throwing very light objects. Throwing modest distances allow you to think a lot. I fooled around with a 3lb hammer one time and one thing I had to learn was that you just cant think, you have to go and hope that your technique will be there. Then go back with heavier balls and work on refining technique, repping it out and then test again with the light balls. Generally most of your volume should be with the 14-16-18 (pretty standard for most throwers), but if I were you I would find the weight that allows the best technique, rhythm and speed and then go a kilo up and a kilo down. Smaller percentage of throws with very light balls and very heavy balls for specific strength work. If your young you can develop good foot speed. Its a lot harder to do that later in life (Nikulin's approach). Looking back I forced myself to adapt to a 16lb hammer before developing good technique and then tried to change already ingrained bad motor patterns. You know what helped? A 7 year layoff. Dont think you want to go that route. Anyway thats my 2 cents. Its hard to give specific guidance - everyone works differently.
published at Mar 26th 2008 11:00am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Coach Mac
There is a very good chance that Dr. Bondarchuk (Gold Medalist Hammer Throw) and the most SUCCESFUL Olympic Coach in history ( over 20-Olympic FInalists) has offered to work with North American hammer throwers for 2-3 days right after Mt Sac Relays.
Moorpark College is the proposed location and we currently have 3-long throw rings with the possibility of adding two more.
I'm solicicting intrest om the RING and will know a lot more by tomorrow.
PLEASE respond too: CoachMac2003@hotmail.com if the leadst bit intrested as this rare opportunity could be the last appearance in the USA as Dr. B is the most succesful sport scientist /coach and currently is 67-years old with 100's of articles and his book " Transfer of Training " IS the bible of training/throwing in my humble opinion and I will have my copy signed first thing...grin
Have a GREAT Day
published at Mar 26th 2008 12:20pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Coach Mac
So if you NEED to throw the 3-k hammer 290' by the time you are 17 by international standards and you start learning how too throw the hammer at 18...h'mmmm...Huston we have a PROBLEM ?
So...Scott B some thoughts. If you are in the 2nd year I'm quessing there are technical issues that are affecting you increasing the speed of the ball in turns 3-4. MOST throwers with your training age struggle working the back-half of the ring ( 12 being the throwing direction = 3 o'clock too 12 )
OVER-SPEED -You should be throwing SOMETHING the target distance that you wish to achieve.
Young Conor McCoullagh is currently over 290' with the 3-k...which is beyond the world record with the 7.25.
STRATEGIES: WARM UPS- with a light ball ( 5-K men---2-k woman)TO GET THE NERVOUS SYSTEM FIRED UP. Comp ball should always be a minumum of 50% of the load. After you get done with comps...getting tired finish up with light balls at TAGET distance.
I don't want anyone to think that its ALL light balls and speed. We wind and release 44-lb hammers as well..grin
Keep us posted and video would be a quick fix on You Tube.
LONG THROWS -mac
published at Mar 26th 2008 12:41pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Coach Mac
Brad and Mickey...ahh the brain and throwing. I think you are both correct. 9 times out of 10 "it" gets in the way.
Technical events draw technical people. More oftern than not the KISS (K eep I t S imple S tupid) is the method to go with. As experianced coaches I assume we all see 2-3-4 technical issues on any given throw. WHAT verbal/visual cue you PICK is perhaps the "art" of coaching. Knowing your athlete and having a good coaching "language" is important and less coaching is almost always better.
Great topic- mac
published at Mar 26th 2008 12:52pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Glenn McAtee
If you are having trouble accelerating from 3 to 4 turns, perhaps you should only be doing 3 turns.
4 turns in not better, it just gives people a chance to have a longer active path of the hammer. However, some people do not need that extra turn, so don't waste time trying to fix something that you might not need.
Sedykh attempted to throw with 4 turns, but it never helped him throw farther so he abandoned it and went back to three turns.
published at Mar 26th 2008 6:44pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from JRapp
Think about a 100m sprinter. Some of them reach top speed after 40m and some not until 60m. Some hammer throwers need 4 turns to reach top speed and some only need 3. Just like Glenn said if you don't need it don't do it.
published at Mar 26th 2008 8:16pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from CoachY
While I agree with Coach McAtee regarding the effectiveness of three turns vs four, do not lose sight of the fact that you are a second year thrower. Four turn hammer throwing is like everything else in track and field: the more you practice, hopefully the more proficient you will get.
Such a young training age leads me to believe there may be postural or balance issues which are leading to your inability to accellerate the hammer from turn 3 to 4. In my opinion the more 4 turn reps you do, the more you (and your coach) will correct those issues putting you in a better position to move faster on 4.
published at Mar 26th 2008 8:24pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
Quote from Dan P
Im starting to put some of my training videos and later my competition vids on youtube. if anybody wants to check em out and possibly has some advice that would be appreciated. thanks.
published at Mar 26th 2008 8:58pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/