"The Ring" archive entries from Mar 24th 2008

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Quote from Mr.Incredible

I think that the technique would obviously favor someone with a hammer background. But it would not work for someone like Fazekas, who generates his power and speed out of the back with a huge fast sprint across the ring.

Who knows, in ten years the record in the shot might be held by someone who does the cartwheel, and someone who does the 3 turn discus.

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published at Mar 24th 2008 3:27am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from JRapp

I just got my first look at the 2 turn discus. That's a drill that has been around for a long time. I got all excited for a second thinking that there was something new out there.

published at Mar 24th 2008 3:58am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Widrig

Fazekas has a personal best of 75.33m in the hammer throw. He competed at World Juniors in '94, and threw over 70m up until 2001.

http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/biographies/letter=F/country=HUN/athcode=133587/index.html

published at Mar 24th 2008 4:34am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Tony Dziepak

The drill version of the 2-turn discus is a 360-degree pivot on the left foot, then a touch and a regular full throw.

I think to make a 2-turn technique for competition work, you would want to do something different after the the initial turn. If the initial turn is to serve a purpose, it would be to generate rotational speed as in the hammer. The best way to do this would be to push the discus in front of the shoulder line in the unwind. Then bring the hips and shoulders back in front when stepping across the front.

Now what do you have? You have built up rotational speed going into the regular discus full throw. But how can you use this? Not a big sprint across the circle, but another rotation bringing the discus maybe slightly in front of the shoulder line coming out of the back. You just need to get your hips in front when the left foot lands.

This technique is similar to the highland games #28 and #56 weight throw. However, 2K is not much weight to follow.

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published at Mar 24th 2008 5:29am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Mr.Incredible

Yes your right. I forgot he was a great hammer thrower too.

published at Mar 24th 2008 12:01pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from slug

Couple things regarding weigh ins:

1) About 8 years ago, we went to a meet of champions. They were using an ancient balance that looked like it had been used by gold miners. To make matters worse, they were using empty plastic milk jugs with rocks as the weight for the implements. Saw a school take a brand new Hollowood out of the box (and plastic bag) and have it confiscated.

2) Myself and another coach from my team have become the default weigh in guys for all the big meets in Vermont now, mostly cause no one else will step up and do it. We have a digital scale and precise equipment. Love it when a coach comes to yell at us after we impound a shot put that looks like the moon, or a disucs that looks like its been attacked with a belt sander. One day I'm going to aske if we should start bedning other rules....like false starts....or exchange zones.

Mid 30's to low 40's today. Let's get melting!!

Have a good day,

Jeremy Hammond
Essex High School
Essex Junction, VT

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published at Mar 24th 2008 8:15pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from gotdisc

i am coaching 2 jr's in high school; this is their 2nd year of throwing. when they glide and when they are rotating, their distances are similar. should i start working with them more in the rotational shot or should i give the glide more time to develop. both can rotate in the discus fairly well.

any thoughts welcome!

"always a great wind in SW nebraska!"

published at Mar 24th 2008 11:26pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/