"The Ring" archive entries from Nov 7th 2007

  • Quote from Scott B.

    In my personal opinion, I can see why the Westside methods would not be as suitable for a hammer thrower but more towards a shotputter.
    Unlike the hammer, using the Westside methods of creating a greater stretch reflex by using bands could indeed help improve a shotputters power. Since hammer throwers dont really use the muscles needed in the bench to throw far, I think the westside method would be more suited for a shotputter because you do use the same muscles in the bench that you use in the shot.
    So I think that using some of the westside methods of using bands to help create speed and explosiveness within the benchpress, will also help with a throwers jerk or overhead press as well, because by using bands you are essentially improving your lockout which will also improve the jerk or overhead press. Which I think (in my training anyways) is the bread and butter lift to help a shotputter throw far.

    published at Nov 7th 2007 11:55am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

  • Quote from smach

    If you want to talk about Olympic lifts vs. westside, I can tell you that I am a firm believer in Westside and what it has done for me. I haven't done Olympic lifts in a year and believe it or not on my first attempt to "see where I'm at" i cleaned a huge personal best. The thing about Olympic lifts is that they are very taxing lifts technically. We already spend our time learning how to throw the shot, discus, hammer, or javelin, so to learn in the weight room how to snatch and clean correctly is something that could take years. Remember, Olympic lifters are good for a reason and that is because they have been doing it for years. As a collegiate athlete like myself, i only have 4-5 years, so i want to get as strong as possible. And if you want to know what its done for me here goes... as a college sophomore i started the program given my new school and the EXTREMELY knowledgeable staff we have i benched 300 lbs, squatted 400, and dead lifted 400 lbs. currently, one year later, i have benched 380 lbs, squatted 500, and dead lifted 515, AND, have used box jumps instead of Olympic lifts, and have completed 3 sets of 6 reps on a 51 inch box. this is all at a body weight of 220 standing 6-1. So you see, Westside IS for throwers! Hope this helps

    published at Nov 7th 2007 9:22pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

  • published at Nov 7th 2007 9:45pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

  • Quote from Humanus

    Ilchamp66200..

    Listen, the world that you are talking about is apples and oranges to what we are talking about here in regards to strength and performance coaches working athletes to the all important Olympic gold medal. Listen is you want to compare dicks, you need to step out of your little box of Olympic weightlifting and start looking at the big picture. Louie Simmons is a powerlifting coach...

    published at Nov 7th 2007 10:16pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

  • Quote from ilchamp66200

    Like a friend of mine once said... You cant argue with stupidity.. So have a good day :)There is a reason Powerlifting isn't an Olympic sport.. I wonder why?

    suck that Mike Gattone) For you to write that goes to show how classy you are.. When you start a successful gym and start training "real" athletes call me.

    published at Nov 7th 2007 10:43pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

  • Quote from Humanus

    I assume that you and your friend were having an argument?

    Waite before you finish blowing yourself, you took the time to come on this site and promote you coach or maybe just a good friend by down playing the successes of another coach (Louie Simmons). You, no one else, took the time to point out the Olympic Success short comings of a coach that doesn

    published at Nov 7th 2007 11:27pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

  • Quote from ilchamp66200

    What is with your profanity on the ring? Does it take words like tool and blowing for you to get your point across? What a big man you are!!!! Regardless I never bad mouthed Louie. I simply stated that we should give a shot out to two very sucessful coaches as well. I have never downplayed the importance of benching or squatting. Mike Gattone does not strictly teach Olympic Lifting. He teaches Safe, Effective, and Most of all Functional training for athletes of all ages. You are an egomaniac and the fact that you get so upset on the ring really makes me wonder if it is you.. Who is beating your meat over this. GOOD DAY Humanus and remember Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. You accomplished this goal Congrats!

    published at Nov 7th 2007 11:55pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

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