These are the posts from "The Ring" archive on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/ from day Oct 29th 2007

"The Ring" archive entries from Oct 29th 2007
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Quote from LetItRip
Ok... now i dont want anyone to have to incriminate themselves by choosing one or another :-), and also i 100% understand that every program might offer something that might be better for one athlete over another, but im looking for 1 answer from anyone...
The question is simple..
If you as a coach had the choice to send an athlete (your best thrower) to one college in the US which would it be, and why..
This is not an exercise for 3.5 out of 4 to select georgia perhaps because of this or that, but i think this will allow all to see the good values of many programs in the US to help everyone. You mayb seperate women & men..
Thanks everyone..
Mike
LetItRip!published at Oct 29th 2007 2:25am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from Mr.Incredible
Having ASU practically in my back yard is might make me biased but I think that Coach Dumble has done amazing things at ASU. His female throwers along with their heptathelete pretty much won the team title at NCAA's last year.
The reasons for ASU is:
1. Great weather in the winter and spring for training.
2. great coaching- Along with Coach Dumble you would have access to Godina on occasionwhen he is training there
3. We now have a top ranked football team (#4 in the country) which would attract top football recruits that also throw.
4. Arizona also has the best JUCO throws programs in the country which ASU and the UofA recruit from.
Tim Edwards
Throws Coach, Phoenix Collegepublished at Oct 29th 2007 4:33am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from 70footer
pretty simple answer really....historically the best throwing colleges are ;
-TEXAS A & M ,alumni includes Randy Barnes, Randy Matson, and Mike Stulce.
-UCLA , alumni includes Dave Laut, John Brenner , and John Godina.
-GEORGIA , resident throwers include Reese Hoffa and Adam Nelson.
but I wouldn't preclude any of the throwing coaches on this post ,particularly John Smith, Mickey Cutler , and Mac Wilkins who has a great program up in Oregon Valley and a host of others that I can't think of right now from this post; they are by and large very well informed and care a great deal about this sport. and in the end hopefully you will choose a coach/school that cares about you and your responsible development.published at Oct 29th 2007 4:33am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from 49erThrower
This is a fun question, sure to have many different opinons. Being in southern california i cant think of a better program than UCLA. A great coach, weather, history of excellent throwers, and a degree that will carry good weight later in life.
But i still love Long Beach Statepublished at Oct 29th 2007 4:40am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from Kap
wil be in oklahoma by next year. Brian Blutreich did amazing things at North Carolina with less than super support from the head coach and the school: 4 NCAA champs and 3 2nd places in the last 2 years covering all 4 throws. Oklahoma is spending money for facilities, equipment and recruiting so far beyond what Brian had at UNC my calculator can't handle the numbers.
Mark it down: in 5 years Oklahoma will be the standard other programs are measured by.published at Oct 29th 2007 4:44am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from BR
You won't find a better to train than Eugene, OR! GREAT facilities, awesome fan base, media coverage, buget, football team that will dominate ASU next week, and Lance Deal is the coach! Sure, it does rain... but the others more than make up for it!
Go DUCKS!published at Oct 29th 2007 5:14am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from jayess
Did you announce a winner of the quiz?
published at Oct 29th 2007 7:35am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from Enzo
I have a problem I've been kind of embarassed and ashamed to tell anyone... I have rusty shots...
Does anyone have some simple ways to make 'em look like new again, say with some household goods? Or are there any good products they sell at hardware stores and such...
Thanks
Enzopublished at Oct 29th 2007 9:51am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from TrojanCoach
the one that pays for your degree...
JMpublished at Oct 29th 2007 10:16am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from 70footer
SOAP and WATER , get s rid of most of the rust.....the last part of it will come off after a few throws.
published at Oct 29th 2007 10:36am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from Turn and Burn
It depends what the athlete's particular strenghts are in terms of event he may be best at. Ie, hammer, discus, ect. Secondly what is the athlete's personality like? Will he/she mesh with the coach and visa versa? These things all matter.
published at Oct 29th 2007 10:46am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from MAC
Why was a discus icon used in a TV commercial for a MLB sponsored message?
MACpublished at Oct 29th 2007 10:51am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from Ringmaster
I guess I'll choose to think that they used "discobolis" because the Greek statue is an archetypal image of perfection on both technique and physique in athletics.
Sincerely,
I prefer my head in the sand.published at Oct 29th 2007 11:15am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from N2THROS
HI: CB Nebraska. Still losing football games. Best college is the one that the athlete picks. It is their feel, their academic degre and then throwing in that order. If they want the money go for it, BUT, I would rather see a happy thrower getting their degree in their field of endeavor and meshing with the coaches and athletes and having fun while improving their throwing. RUSTY SHOTS- I paint mine next week or two. I have a 2x4 24inch frame six inches high that has 2 cinder block and a chair. I fill my old lawn tractor with gas and oil, hit high gear (6) and head down the gravel road a mile or so, turn around and come back. I also carry my shot gun if I go late in the evening, surprising how many quail and pheasants I bring home also. Thro far and loud. Typed not proofed C.B Nebraska N2THROS
published at Oct 29th 2007 11:18am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from N2THROS
N?M
published at Oct 29th 2007 11:21am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from Norm Zylstra
"the one that pays for your degree... "
Are you serious?published at Oct 29th 2007 11:52am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from LetItRip
After studying most programs the past few years, i have my own thoughts, but i was interested in hearing others as well... Theres no doubt a handful of parameters that must/should go into this decision.
I think it would be great if we/someone could create a matrix of sorts on the top 20-25 programs based on available information & categories. It is definitely something that can help high school athletes as they explore and research schools, as well as high school coaches to help their athletes as needed. this information would be valuable to the throwing community in this space as its coming from a lot of experienced and abled people.
Any takers ?
Regards,
Mike
LetItRip!published at Oct 29th 2007 12:54pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from Coach Rodney
The Question was asked, But what criteria are we looking at? How many Championships have been won? whether there from Nationals, Conferences, Men/Women, depth, throwing facilities? Lifting facilities, Coach/Coaches? length of consistentcy, Is the program doing well at the present? Education? See what you have here is those sicken polls, it like who said this and who said that. Is Georgia better then Arizona State, or UCLA better then Oregon, Or BYU better then Stanford? Oklahoma better then Tennesse? How about Money, who has the schlorships. I guess for the thrower reading this, How about the place where you will get the support, the training facility, the schedule, the education,and the chance to train with teammates and others. I for one will say, BYU, but they have many downfalls, but have produced many NCAA Discus Champions, Only Stanford has one more and will BYU ever have another one? Will Stanford? Will any school with Multi winners? Food for thought?!
published at Oct 29th 2007 1:09pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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Quote from CSickler1
One that caters to the need of who you want to be, but for throwers the throwing program should be secondary. Unless you're in the top 20% of the nation then you shouldn't seek the top 20% of coaches. If I throw 40' in the shot I have a feeling UCLA won't spend too much time cultivating my talents. I remember talking to coaches and one coach was telling stories about how one of his athletes wasn't there for track but to learn how to be a dad to his future child. It freaked me out, I was 18 and fresh out of smallville and we're talking about how I could learn to be a parent. End all in my opinion, if the coach matches and the program is great it means nothing if the school atmosphere isn't there, so in my opinion a sad unhappy thrower won't throw far so there is no top school unless you're in the top 20% and willing to sacrafice. That being said, here come the stat questions. How many throwers in the top 20% are accepted to that university, how many are willing to stay in school 4 years let alone THAT school and just how many won't fall out to injury... Just some side faqs
published at Oct 29th 2007 1:10pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/
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