"The Ring" archive entries from Oct 11th 2007

Quote from Satch

Thanks for all the responses. Tomsonite is correct. Not my idea at all. I do coach several throwers every year that don

published at Oct 11th 2007 9:18pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from John Smith

Thier are a hand full of shot putters that would drop the World Record to answer your question. Some of the best putting in history is going on right now.



John Smith

published at Oct 11th 2007 10:41pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from hopefullthrower

and some of the best discus throwing too!

published at Oct 11th 2007 11:01pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Hunter

Its a challenge to coach 30-40 kids with only 1-2 coaches... I think your attitude on cutting depends on a variety of factors.

1) If I was coaching at a "throwing powerhouse" with state qualifiers/champions year after year, I'd make cuts to get rid of the kids that are there just to fool around with their buddies and/or say they are a 2-3 sport athlete. If you can't throw 40' or 140' by your junior year, you'll be sent packing. Then a lot of quality time could be spent with the promising youngsters and the guys throw state-caliber distances.

2)If my program sucked, I'd want to get as many warm bodies as I could...no cutting at all. I'd be praying that the freshman that throws 34' has a big growth spurt and throws 47-50' as a senior.

3)A lot of this has to do with facilites and practice times as well. I went to a HS known for its throws. The coach, Jim Aikens never made cuts but did a masterful job of organizing practice so the top athletes got the attention they needed.

Most of the varsity throwers lifted in gym class while the others did not. A typical practice would begin with all the throwers warming up and doing very basic, fundamental drills and a few full throws. Then the non-varsity guys would go lift while the 5-6 good throwers would get a lot of supervised throws in.

Personally, I tell my athletes "There's 30 of you and only 1 of me. If you want me to work with you, you better throw far and be putting forth 100% effort". So only about 20-40% of my throwers get my attention on a daily basis.

My rambling 2cents,
KK

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published at Oct 12th 2007 12:05am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Norm Balke

I am torn on this issue. I echo the sentiments of both those that say, "You may be cutting a potential state champion!!" and "There are goofballs that come out just to be with their friends, and take ring time away from those who deserve it."

Solutions:
1. Survival of the fittest. Make practices challenging so that the cream rises ot the top.

2. Split practice. I realize in some places it is not possible. Group 1: 400-500, Group 2 500-600, or what have you.

3. Create standards.

I have done #2, but not #1 or #3. I have tempted to do one or both of those, however!! In my 21 years of coaching, My biggest regret has been that the serious throwers did not get enough reps and that I was too soft-hearted with those that did not really care.

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published at Oct 12th 2007 12:51am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/