"The Ring" archive entries from Aug 31st 2007

Quote from andy

Norm...
what makes you say that Beyer had bad technique?

He has outstanding technical performance with regard to keeping the shot in a linear path. The shot from the moment of the initiation of the glide at the lowest point to the moment of the relase is kept in a very straight path, which is a fundamental biomechanical aspect of sport...the culmination of forces in a straight direction of the body movement or the axis of rotation. No other athlete at the time performed this element that well.
In addition, his shot NEVER had x-axis deviation meaning it went from lowest position to release gradually without ever losing height.
He may look slow or awkward towards end of career, but you can never say that biomechanically he was bad

He certainly does not belong on your list. More appropriate would be Machura from that era.

And Riedel? you could never convince me of that, but for fun, tell me why he is bad tecnically?

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published at Aug 31st 2007 11:45pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from KP

I'm thinking that Norm's jaw hurts from having his tongue so far in his cheek...beauty and technique both being in the eye of the beholder.

published at Sep 1st 2007 12:20am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tomsonite

Thanks a lot for that information on Rutger Smith, very informative and interesting...and yes, his athletic numbers are pretty amazing!

published at Sep 1st 2007 12:30am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from tomsonite

There has been a lot of talk on throwing light and heavy implements on developing specific strength and specific speed - I know they do that but not really how or why or what the other benefits may be, can some of the experienced coaches on here weigh in on that? And if you have any of that info as it pertains to the hammer, that would be helpful to me as well.

Also out of curiosity, is there any such thing as light/heavy javelin throwing or do jav throwers not bother with that stuff?

published at Sep 1st 2007 12:33am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Coach Herring

Thanks for the info. I have been working with my throwers the last few years on setting up our training similar to the "Westside Barbell", conjugate approach. This method has worked extremely well for myself and my throwers in the weight room, so I have slowly brought this approach to the throwing ring. It has been working well in the shot / weight, but I have been struggling to implement the same principles for the disc / hammer. I still utilize heavy and light implements in the hammer but only using full competition type throws.

Without going into too much detail (I am working on an article on this topic) I use a maximum effort day (SP/WT), where we through an overweight implement using "special exercises" similar to our competition throw, but not a full technique throw, and then a dynamic effort day where we throw an underweight implement using full competition throw. I assume you have some experience with this type of training from reading some of your articles, if so can you offer any input?

published at Sep 1st 2007 12:43am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/