"The Ring" archive entries from Aug 17th 2007

Quote from Glenn McAtee

Americans travelling to Canada do NOT need a passport to clear the border, if you are coming straight from the US. You should bring your passport if you have one, but if not, just bring your drivers license or other government issued photo ID, plus a back up form of ID.
As with any excursion to Canada, do not bring firearms.
Glenn

published at Aug 17th 2007 8:56pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from boris

What kind of trip would that be? Canadians definitely dont know how to party.

published at Aug 17th 2007 9:13pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Norm Balke

Are they wrong to not straighten the left leg? How about the many baseball pitchers who do not?

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published at Aug 17th 2007 10:31pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from JRapp

Baseball Pitchers are not throwing for distance. They are throwing at a downward angle and are throwing at a target. Along with the various arm slots, speed, various grips etc... It's not quite the same. Asking an outfielder to throw a ball as far he can would be a little bit more in our neck of the woods. Bugar and Nesterenko are not wrong for not straightening their left leg. They both develop a solid left that allows for the development of a strong right side finish. In this case it's not "how" you do it, it's "if" you do it. And they do it.

published at Aug 17th 2007 10:45pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from w8coach

Actully, we sound closer than I first thought. I see what you are trying to say here. I would agree the right side(upper body) comes around a stable left side that has already stretched reflexedbut the difference in translation is that the left side facilitated the right side movement and the the right side was not contracted manully so to speak. As I said before the the opposite limbs work together so the right leg pivot the the left arm block are actively contracted. I guess we all have something similar to say we may just use some differing terms to say it.

published at Aug 17th 2007 11:16pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Tony Dziepak

The superweight is actually #56 men, #35 women. Then there are "ultraweights" of #98, #200, and #300.

I am aware that Ilia Konovalov (Rus) threw 16.38 with the #56 weight (WB), and Lance Deal threw 16.18 (best known US), both at Christian Erb's 1999 international thrower's meet in Ruudlingen, Switzerland.

The USATF rulebook still recognizes the #56 National records, but I cannot find it on the usatf.org website. Women's superweight does not have the same status.

Superweight/ultraweight seems to be more popular among the masters crowd than in senior/open age athletes--as Glenn said, rightly so, because they should be focused on the hammer while they still have a shot at the Olympics or other major competitions.

More: http://www.geocities.com/aedziepak/other.htm

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published at Aug 17th 2007 11:21pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from JRapp

Agreed...The one thing that frustrates me about posting on the ring is that I would rather be right in front of someone physically showing them what I mean.

published at Aug 17th 2007 11:26pm on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/

Quote from Dan McQuaid

It is definitely better to discuss these matters in person, as throwing technique should always be discussed over beers.

Here's my question about Nesterenko. Will he ever throw 70meters with the 2k with his current technique? In the one film clip I've seen of him, he reminds me of some of the European women throwers who perform some very odd movements in the ring but are able to launch the 1k--perhaps because it is so light?
Let me close by saying that I mean no offense by any of these comments. I'm sure that JRapp, Nesterenko, and just about any European women's discus thrower could beat me up.

--McQ

published at Aug 18th 2007 12:14am on http://www.effortlessthrow.org/